Leadership lessons learned the hard way

Leadership lessons learned the hard way, with EVEN co-founders, Ellen Sullivan and Dr Nora Koslowski

Stepping into leadership isn’t just a new title. It reshapes your identity, how you spend your time, and what “being effective” really means.

In this episode, EVEN co-founders Dr Nora Koslowski and Ellen Sullivan share the leadership lessons they wish they’d known before their first promotions: the surprises, the mistakes, and the shortcuts that would have made those early months far easier.

Whether you’re preparing to step up, already leading, or wondering how to balance ambition with the rest of your life, this conversation offers practical insights on people leadership, boundaries, confidence, and building a network that supports your growth.

What we cover:
• How to navigate the identity shift of leadership
• Why women often overlook their own development
• Balancing ambition, family life and wellbeing
• The leadership basics no one teaches you
• How to build confidence and back yourself early

A grounded, honest episode for anyone stepping into leadership on their own terms.

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